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Where We Meet

The Society meets at 19:30 on the fourth Thursday of each month (except August and December) at St Peter's Church Hall in Wisbech unless otherwise stated. There is a map of the centre of Wisbech to show the location of the hall.

We have a full programme, including speakers, members' evenings and outings. An archive of reports of previous years meetings is available.

Current Meeting Programme

2010

28 January 2009

The Princess Alice Disaster

Maureen Nicholls & Maurice Amps

25 February 2009

Pig Clubs

Susanah Farmer

25 March 2009

Club Meeting

Research help & advice from members

22 April 2009

World War 2 stories

Mac Narborough

27 May 2009

Fenland Food Recipes & Tastings

Alison Sloane

24 June 2009

Visit to the Quaker Meeting House Wisbech

Outside event

22 July 2009

Wisbech Anniversaries

Andrew Ingram

August 2009

No meeting

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18 September 2009

Family History Day - St. Peters Church Hall

A variety of FHS and research stands

23 September 2009

AGM and talk - Religious Houses of Lincolnshire

Committee - Brian Jones

28 October 2009

Wellington’s Army

Mike Petty

25 November 2009

Crimes & Misdemeaners & Social evening

Pete Edwards

December 2009

No meeting

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Summaries of meetings

2010 Description Author
January 2010

THE PRINCESS ALICE DISASTER: A TALK BY MAUREEN NICHOLLS & MAURICE AMPS

Our well attended January meeting heard from Maureen how a disaster, which happened in 1878, led her into Family History research.

Whilst watching a TV programme on the sinking of the Lucitania by a German torpedo & hearing about all those who drowned, the casual remark made by Maureen’s mother that Aunt Mary drowned made Maureen question her mum - had Aunt Mary drowned when the Lucitania went down. Mother’s answer was ‘No- she drowned in the Thames’.
With no more information forthcoming Maureen became intrigued with Aunt Mary & after asking around was told she could get information from the newspapers of the time.

Living in London made access to the Newspaper Library easy on her days off.

Diligent searching of many papers produced the story with hand drawn pictures of the event.

A collision occurred between the passenger boat The Princess Alice returning from Sheerness & the coal carrier Bywell Castle coming from the dry dock after repairs & repainting, on the sultry evening of 3rd September 1878 on the river Thames, on a bend where the north & south sewage outfalls fell into the river. Over 600 people were drowned despite small boats going to the rescue.

Many people couldn’t swim & most were dragged down into the putrid water by their heavy clothing.

Maureens’s search showed that her great Aunt Mary Ball had drowned & also that she had been in the company of a married man, a licensed victualler! The story goes that Mary, who was in service, & being off duty wore her hair free & long & that her man friend seeing a lady in the water thought it was Mary & grasped her long hair & dragged her ashore only to find that it wasn’t Mary he had saved!

He must have given information about Mary so that perhaps her employers were informed & hence her mother Bridget Ball identified her daughter body.

Procedures were followed to inform relatives of the named passengers.

Maureen told her mother what she had found out & that Bridget was Mary’s mother –Mum’s quick answer was ‘yes & Robert was her father’ which as Maureen said was the first lesson she learned when researching family history - that you should question family members very carefully & get as much information as possible from them.

Maurice interspersed Maureen’s talk with the technical details of both vessels & the inquest.

A Mr Carttar was the coroner & the hearing lasted over a month. Over 600 people drowned & the cost of the inquest was £4621 16s 6d.

Criticisms were made of both captains. The Alice’s captain went down with his ship with his wife & children.

As there were no ‘rules of the river ‘in those days the outcome of this incident brought about changes in that ships now pass each other ‘port to port’ amongst other rulings.

It was also stated that the Alice was probably overloaded. It was known that the Bywell had a pilot on board but that the collision occurred because both captains thought they were steering away from each other when in fact the opposite happened.

Maureen’s talk could have very dismal but she cleverly lightened it by anecdotes & stories of her family which she said were ‘ stories for another day’!

There were many photos & copies of the newspapers for us to look at whilst we enjoyed refreshments & there is a very good web site about this incident.

Our February speaker is Susanah Farmer whose talk is on ‘Pig Clubs’- another way of researching family history!

Barbara Holmes
February 2010

PIGS CLUBS

Susanah Farmer was our speaker for the February meeting & began by telling of her students days which led her into studying local history & eventually her family history, Susananh also has a love of pigs to the extent that she rears her own!

As she explained, when one starts a project it invariably leads to other avenues & as part of local history she became aware that in days past most families kept a pig at the bottom of the garden or on their allotments to supplement their food supplies especially during hard times such as the war.

The powers that be realised that such practices would continue so they encouraged the formation of Pig Clubs which started around 1880 to buy, feed & look after pigs.
Pigs Clubs were established as self help groups, had minutes recorded & members lists – a source of names for family history & fees paid which helped members out in lean times.

Pigs were known to eat anything & everything from scraps from the table to the waste products from such places as breweries & dairies & returned the same as manure.

The government created inspectors & documents & plans such as IR 58’s show that not only did they inspect the pigs & their environ but also described how peoples’ houses were built & the number of rooms they had & where the pigs & poultry were kept.

The clubs were also a way for the hierarchy to have some social control over the populace- ‘give them something to do & keep them out of trouble’ & people were encouraged to become self sufficient.

We were shown many documents of historical & social value & told of ways to research Pig & Cow clubs for lists of members & as an insight to social history which could enhance our knowledge of our own families .

Susanah told how the slaughter of the family pig was always an occasion, if somewhat sad perhaps for the children, but the end products fed the family, even if the pig had become a pet & that every part of the pig was used – except the squeal.

There were several books available to peruse, one of which was Mrs Beaton’s recipes for pork products.

The talk ended with members recalling their own family pig keeping.

Our March meeting is the Club Night when members show how they have recorded their Family History & to exchange help & advice with lap tops fiche & readers & CD’s available.

Barbara Holmes

Last Updated on: 28 February, 2010

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