FENLAND
FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY

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Where We Meet

The Society meets at 19:30 on the fourth Thursday of each month (except August and December) at St Peter's Church Hall in Wisbech unless otherwise stated. There is a map of the centre of Wisbech to show the location of the hall.

We have a full programme, including speakers, members' evenings and outings. An archive of reports of previous years meetings is available.

Current Meeting Programme

2010

28 January 2009

The Princess Alice Disaster

Maureen Nicholls & Bernard Amps

25 February 2009

Pig Clubs

Susanah Farmer

25 March 2009

Club Meeting

Research help & advice from members

22 April 2009

World War 2 stories

Mac Narborough

27 May 2009

Fenland Food Recipes & Tastings

Alison Sloane

24 June 2009

Visit to the Quaker Meeting House Wisbech

Outside event

22 July 2009

Wisbech Anniversaries

Andrew Ingram

August 2009

No meeting

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18 September 2009

Family History Day - St. Peters Church Hall

A variety of FHS and research stands

23 September 2009

AGM and talk - Religious Houses of Lincolnshire

Committee - Brian Jones

28 October 2009

Wellington’s Army

Mike Petty

25 November 2009

Crimes & Misdemeaners & Social evening

Pete Edwards

December 2009

No meeting

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Summaries of meetings

2010 Description Author
January 2010

THE PRINCESS ALICE DISASTER: A TALK BY MAUREEN NICHOLLS & MAURICE AMPS

Our well attended January meeting heard from Maureen how a disaster, which happened in 1878, led her into Family History research.

Whilst watching a TV programme on the sinking of the Lucitania by a German torpedo & hearing about all those who drowned, the casual remark made by Maureen’s mother that Aunt Mary drowned made Maureen question her mum - had Aunt Mary drowned when the Lucitania went down. Mother’s answer was ‘No- she drowned in the Thames’.
With no more information forthcoming Maureen became intrigued with Aunt Mary & after asking around was told she could get information from the newspapers of the time.

Living in London made access to the Newspaper Library easy on her days off.

Diligent searching of many papers produced the story with hand drawn pictures of the event.

A collision occurred between the passenger boat The Princess Alice returning from Sheerness & the coal carrier Bywell Castle coming from the dry dock after repairs & repainting, on the sultry evening of 3rd September 1878 on the river Thames, on a bend where the north & south sewage outfalls fell into the river. Over 600 people were drowned despite small boats going to the rescue.

Many people couldn’t swim & most were dragged down into the putrid water by their heavy clothing.

Maureens’s search showed that her great Aunt Mary Ball had drowned & also that she had been in the company of a married man, a licensed victualler! The story goes that Mary, who was in service, & being off duty wore her hair free & long & that her man friend seeing a lady in the water thought it was Mary & grasped her long hair & dragged her ashore only to find that it wasn’t Mary he had saved!

He must have given information about Mary so that perhaps her employers were informed & hence her mother Bridget Ball identified her daughter body.

Procedures were followed to inform relatives of the named passengers.

Maureen told her mother what she had found out & that Bridget was Mary’s mother –Mum’s quick answer was ‘yes & Robert was her father’ which as Maureen said was the first lesson she learned when researching family history - that you should question family members very carefully & get as much information as possible from them.

Maurice interspersed Maureen’s talk with the technical details of both vessels & the inquest.

A Mr Carttar was the coroner & the hearing lasted over a month. Over 600 people drowned & the cost of the inquest was £4621 16s 6d.

Criticisms were made of both captains. The Alice’s captain went down with his ship with his wife & children.

As there were no ‘rules of the river ‘in those days the outcome of this incident brought about changes in that ships now pass each other ‘port to port’ amongst other rulings.

It was also stated that the Alice was probably overloaded. It was known that the Bywell had a pilot on board but that the collision occurred because both captains thought they were steering away from each other when in fact the opposite happened.

Maureen’s talk could have very dismal but she cleverly lightened it by anecdotes & stories of her family which she said were ‘ stories for another day’!

There were many photos & copies of the newspapers for us to look at whilst we enjoyed refreshments & there is a very good web site about this incident.

Our February speaker is Susanah Farmer whose talk is on ‘Pig Clubs’- another way of researching family history!

Barbara Holmes
February 2010

PIGS CLUBS

Susanah Farmer was our speaker for the February meeting & began by telling of her students days which led her into studying local history & eventually her family history, Susananh also has a love of pigs to the extent that she rears her own!

As she explained, when one starts a project it invariably leads to other avenues & as part of local history she became aware that in days past most families kept a pig at the bottom of the garden or on their allotments to supplement their food supplies especially during hard times such as the war.

The powers that be realised that such practices would continue so they encouraged the formation of Pig Clubs which started around 1880 to buy, feed & look after pigs.
Pigs Clubs were established as self help groups, had minutes recorded & members lists – a source of names for family history & fees paid which helped members out in lean times.

Pigs were known to eat anything & everything from scraps from the table to the waste products from such places as breweries & dairies & returned the same as manure.

The government created inspectors & documents & plans such as IR 58’s show that not only did they inspect the pigs & their environ but also described how peoples’ houses were built & the number of rooms they had & where the pigs & poultry were kept.

The clubs were also a way for the hierarchy to have some social control over the populace- ‘give them something to do & keep them out of trouble’ & people were encouraged to become self sufficient.

We were shown many documents of historical & social value & told of ways to research Pig & Cow clubs for lists of members & as an insight to social history which could enhance our knowledge of our own families .

Susanah told how the slaughter of the family pig was always an occasion, if somewhat sad perhaps for the children, but the end products fed the family, even if the pig had become a pet & that every part of the pig was used – except the squeal.

There were several books available to peruse, one of which was Mrs Beaton’s recipes for pork products.

The talk ended with members recalling their own family pig keeping.

Our March meeting is the Club Night when members show how they have recorded their Family History & to exchange help & advice with lap tops fiche & readers & CD’s available.

Barbara Holmes
March 2010

Members help & share evening

Members & visitors joined together for our March meeting to share knowledge on the various ways to research family history.

Fiche readers, laptops. printers & all the society’s fiche & CD’s were made available to all.

We were encouraged to show our own methods of research & to exchange ideas.

Groups were seen discussing various topics & display boards showed completed works & those still in progress.

Personal familiar histories were on display & many information forms were available as were the Society MI registers & library.

Bernard Amps gave a demonstration of one way of getting family history onto the computer.

The Society also had a display & information table, manned by members, at the National Trust Peckover House Wisbech the following weekend.

The April meeting is with Mac Marborough who will talk about his RAF WW2 experiences.

Barbara Holmes
April 2010

World War 2 Stories

Posters of WW2 & many photos & newspaper cuttings were displayed & set the scene for our members & guests at our April meeting, when Mac Narborough recounted his WW2 memories.

Mac told us he was born in Southampton above a shoe shop & came to Wisbech where Narborough’s shoe shop & chiropody service has been, in Norfolk Street for many years.

He remembers the threat of war approaching & being sent on his cycle to all the grocers’ shops in town, even recalling the names, to purchase sugar.

His grandfather was Headmaster at Wisbech school& his family served the community in several ways during the war.

He mentioned the Air Raid Warden Stations in Wisbech & himself being a boy scout & a runner taking messages between the various posts .He spoke of air raid shelters & evacuation procedures which were practised on a regular basis. Of being on fire watch duties on top of a large shop roof armed with a stirrup pump & bucket of water.

Mac spoke of the local Home Guard formed to support the regular army & how the home guard had only arm bands for recognition & farmyard tools for defence.

He joined the RAF & told of his skiing training in Norway & his training days & of his comrades many of them were old school friends, two of whom still survive.

Facts, figures & names were mentioned by Mac proving that he has a remarkable memory. An enjoyable evening, when the audience were invited to ask questions & tell their own WW2 stories & look at the displays.

Our May meeting will see Alison Sloane speaking of old Fenland recipes & diet with tastings of some of the recipes.

Barbara Holmes
May 2010

Fenland Food & Recipes

ALISON SLOAN now a teacher at the local Grammar School, gave members & quests a gastronomic delight for our May meeting.

She commenced her talk by telling us how she became obsessed with the history of food.

She gained her Masters in Social History with food being the predominant feature.

After having worked for various commercial companies she then became catering manager at National Trust properties & this lead her into investigating what people ate from Tudor times onwards . The NT properties at Oxburgh House King’s Lynn & Peckover House Wisbech had records of food produced & cooked & inventories of kitchen equipment.

Alison was not too impressed with the food offered to present day NT visitors so decided to research old recipes & reproduce them for the National Trust menu & this proved very successful.

Speaking of what was available from the local land & rivers Alison explained how, with imports of spices, wine & fruit & later molasses, food remained basic but nutritional, although it didn’t stop the working classes trying to eat as their lords & masters -an example quoted was that of fine white bread eaten by the lords, instead of the more wholesome whole grain bread which in poorer times was made of ground peas & beans.

Alison noted the meals taken by a Parson Woodford & that the amount of one of his daily three meals would be sufficient for several meals for us today, & although there were several courses the food was often meat & fish mixed with fruit & spices for each course.

The local well known farmer John Peck also made notes in his diary of food consumed & he noted that the potato which was originally thought only good enough for animal fodder in the mid 1800’s was being offered to humans in a baked form at the local fair & market which he thought ‘was very peculiar’

Alison continued her talk by making a trifle from a Peckover House recipe book which contained a good amount of brandy! The audience then had great pleasure in sampling this & many other dishes Alison had brought with her, these being herring & fruit pie, Fourses cake, lardy cake. Carroway cake, ginger bread, & Norfolk Vinegar cake.

To make the evening more special we were able to celebrate the 85th birthday of our member Bernard Amps, well known in the area for his knowledge of family history & research. He was presented with a card & birthday cake made by member Ann le Fort& he was seen having a good sample of the brandy trifle!

Something you probably didn’t know...

When the molasses barrels were emptied the poor people would scrape them out to get the remnants – hence the saying –scraping the bottom of the barrel !!

You learn something every day .. now what’s in the deep freezer for lunch!

Barbara Holmes
June 2010

June meeting Visit to Sutton St.Edmunds Church

The North Brink Wisbech is undergoing work to the river banks which are being made higher & strengthened. This made access to the Quaker Meeting House Wisbech virtually impossible, so the venue for our June out & about meeting was changed from the Quaker meeting house to Sutton St. Edmunds Church Lincs.

On a very pleasant & warm evening about 35 members & guests were greeted by the church warden to the very pretty & small church of Sutton St. Edmunds & she gave us a short history & the many repairs that had taken place over the decades, whilst we sat in the box pews.

This grade 2 listed building was first built with straw, burned down & completely rebuilt in 1795 in brick & stone at a cost of £1200 financed from Queen Ann’s Bounty.

The organ, choir stalls & pulpit have been obtained over the years, from various other churches & there remains the original brass chandelier holding candles which is still lit for Christmas.

There is a lantern tower topped by the cupola housing one bell. The bell is 25½ inches in diameter & inscribed ‘Thomas Osborn founder Downham Norfolk 1801’

The magnificent stained glass east window shows the Ascension & is a gift from a Miss Whitsed in memory of her brother Isaac. There are 3 beautiful stained glass windows in the south wall two of which are memorials to a past vicar’s parents.

Several members enhanced their family history with what they found in the registers which had been made available & the younger & healthier of us climbed the stairs to the gallery & into the tower.

We were refreshed by coffee tea & biscuits & several people strolled around the graveyard finding the small gravestone which has a preservation order on it. We thInk we managed to decipher the words which said 1 AUG.1660. The Burma Star memorial garden was also appreciated.

Our next meeting in July is about Wisbech Anniversaries & the speaker is the ever popular Andrew Ingram.

Barbara Holmes
July 2010

WISBECH ANNIVERSARIES

Guests and members met for our July meeting to listen to one of our favourite speakers, Andrew Ingram with his slides of various venues. His talk was about Anniversaries of important events for Wisbech.

We were told that a theatre was erected in Wisbech in 1793 and through time has been a school, a boxing venue and a library and had fallen into disrepair but renovated and known today as the Angles Theatre. Wisbech was lit by gas in 1832 and the Leverington road cemetery was laid out in 1835.

160 years ago the first bank was opened, as was the Barton school for boys who were boarders. This school had the luxury of a swimming pool. Wisbech got its first public swimming pool in 1910, situated at Crab Marsh. The fire station was established in Hill Street in 1900.

Octavia Hill, the founder of the National Trust was born in South Brink in 1838 and the house is now a Museum celebrating her life. 145 years ago fresh water was first brought to Wisbech. For many years water had been used from the Wisbech canal and river for drinking, etc., causing outbreaks of Cholera in 1832 and 1849.

The Wisbech canal was closed at the lock junction with the river in 1930 and the railway arrived in 1847. The Wisbech Museum was started up in rented rooms 125 years ago and later moved to a purpose built establishment in Museum Square. The first local paper was produced in 1845, and the first electric cinema was built 100 years ago and bombed during World War 2 in1945.

In 1880 a memorial was erected near the river, to Thomas Clarkson, a local man who with his friend established through parliament, the Abolition of Slavery.

We were fascinated by Andrew’s knowledge and the dates he remembered and the several places mentioned were remembered by the audience.

Our September meeting is the AGM followed by a talk by Brian Jones on the Religious Houses of Lincolnshire.

On September 18th we will be holding our Family History Day when visiting Societies will, with ourselves be available to help with research etc.

There will also be a World War 2 display with, amongst other things, a showing of the food rationing for an adult for one week.

Barbara Holmes

Last Updated on: 31 July, 2010

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